This surface imade a good mechanical bond. The only reason I sanded some was to knock down high spots. Bleach an TSP will not open pores in a painted surface.
Tsp an bleach is for cleaning oils mildew etc. I do not recommend Deck Restorer especially in climates where there is snow. All of my deck restorer peeled off or dissolved as the snow melted. I applied Rust-Oleum Restore to my deck mid August We also watched their video for product application. We used Rust-Oleum deck cleaner for preparation and their special roller for application. Fast forward to March and this stuff is peeling and cracking everywhere.
The failure mode is either peeling up in large sheets or it crumbles when you step on it. The major problem is that in sections of the deck where it neither peels nor crumbles, its removal is all but impossible without destroying the wood decking.
The only thing I can do now is pull up the fir decking and either replace it very expensive or turn the decking over, put it back down and use a conventional stain labor intensive.
Please do not simply believe what I say. Verify this for yourself. Thank you Gerald for a great and very informative article. As always, proper preparation is very important. Please keep up the good work. I guess the polymer solution was so diluted so theres no bonding agent. Possibly power wash it off an start over. But at best its just cosmetics. For now mines holding up well.
But will see what happens in another year. I see you share interesting things here, you can earn some extra cash, your blog has big potential, for the monetizing method, just type in google — K2 advices how to monetize a website. Sorry to hear the horror story on the rustoleum product. After a year an 4 months mine is still intact an looks like i just put it down.
Coating problems are 1 reason I got away from decorative concrete. Lots of things can effect the adhering to the surface There are 2 places on the whole deck the size of a quarter on the edge of a step. Really great tips for restoring a weathered deck. What made you think of using your old concrete boards for a walk way? I really like this idea as it gives the yard a nice feel to it with the stain.
Thanks Ron , I just see items around and wonder how they can be used. About the boards they are Extremely heavy an thick with steel around the out side. After placing I welded these together to keep them from moving as they settle.
The rough surface really hold stain an sealer well. By the way the deck looks just as when I put it down. We put restore on our front porch in Montana and did the steps as well. One year later, we notice it is coming off on the edge of the steps…. The rest of the porch looks great still. Hi Huckleberry , I also have the same problem an just on the edge of 2 steps. Possibly rough up the wood on the edge to make a better mechanical bond. Wish had a solid ans. It has peeled, chipped and came off in large areas.
We did everything the directions indicated. We also hired a professional painter to do the work. What can we do now, except replace the entire deck. Sorry to hear , my deck was extremely rough. The only option I had was to replace deck. Myextremely rough surface Hopefull will lock it tight enough for a few more years. Sorry to hear Caroline. But you can do all the right things an still have failure.
Maybe the other will come off with some help then paint. My deck is in extremely bad shape. I am now in the process of refinishing the deck I power washed it to remove mold and mildew. My plan was to use Restore 10X to fill in some rather large cracks and the wood is a bit rough.
But I live in north east Ohio and the past several winters have been rather rough. Will deck Restore work and will it last or am I wasting my time is there another product that would work better. Say like concrete paint or steel paint for bridges? The first coat will fill those undesirable areas while the second or third coat makes them all but disappear. In fact, DIYers can expect to use at least twice as much deck resurfacer for a given area than if they were to use a stain.
One gallon of the best deck resurfacer will usually cover only about 75 square feet. And, if the deck is particularly worn, a gallon might not even come close to that level of coverage.
Because these products are so thick and designed to hide the wood, manufacturers can offer them in a host of versatile hues. Browns, reds, greens, grays, and even black and white are available, and they can help blend a deck into the landscape around it.
Those who prefer a nonslip surface will enjoy the gritty, grippy textures. For those who prefer a smoother surface underfoot, these options are available as well. But, should you choose a smoother finish, recognize that it might not do quite as well at hiding imperfections as a grittier finish—an additional coat might be necessary. All deck resurfacers protect deck materials from weather conditions like rain and snow. But there are other considerations to keep in mind. If the deck is in a shady spot or an area that sees a lot of water exposure, a resurfacer containing mildewcide might be the only way to keep it clean and safe to walk on.
Also, keep in mind the amount of direct sunlight the deck sees when choosing the deck color. Dark colors might do an excellent job of creating contrast or hiding imperfections, but they also absorb a lot of heat from the sun. The deck surface could be uncomfortable to sit on and painful for bare feet or four-legged family members, particularly on hot, sunny days.
Deck resurfacers rarely dry quickly. Since you apply them in such thick coats, they take quite a bit more time to dry than a thin paint or even thinner stain. Most of the best deck resurfacers take between 24 and 48 hours to dry fully. Imagine spending all day resurfacing a deck only to have rain come through a few hours later and make a mess of the deck and the yard. When applying a resurfacer, having 3 days of pleasant, dry weather is ideal. There are lots of pictures of DIY deck resurfacing jobs that appear to be peeling.
For optimal application, follow these instructions:. The following section will streamline the selection process as it contains some of the top options on the market. Be sure to keep the abovementioned considerations in mind when comparing these products. Olympic Rescue It Timberline Deck Resurfacer is worth checking out for anyone looking for a bit of extra versatility from a resurfacer.
This product also contains a primer and a sealer, promoting adhesion and water resistance on older decks. How about pressure steps and hand rails? Thank you…. What has your experience been? Finally, if I try and pressure wash it the deck boards will shred since they are in bad shape not rotten yet.
Thoughts on if this will even be worth it? Another question from the random bin…did you consider the new DeckOver from Behr? Also if you did consider the other product why did you choose this product instead of the Behr one?
Love it! I just finished an sq. It does everything it says it does. I did thin it down using 1 cup of water per gallon. You can not rush applying this product. It is a very slow application process. I turned each container upside down for about 15 minutes prior to opening.
I also used a mixing tool in a drill to mix it. There is no way one could mix this with a paint stirrer. Spread it naturally by not putting pressure on your roller. Dries fairly fast. It does cover the amount of sq.
It is textured and dries to a non slip surface. A little rough to bare feet but not unbearable. My deck surrounds a swimming pool. No more splinters or cracks in the boards. I hope it lasts as long as it claims it will. It is warranted for 12 years. So far it is well worth the money spent on it.
My deck is sq ft too. How much did you use? Does it get hot in the sun? We live in Northern MIchigan and have lots of snow.
Any clue how it holds up? My deck is fairly new around 8 years old. Can somebody please comment on it? I just completed my deck using the restore product. I used the thick gritty stuff for the horizontal surfaces and the stain for the vertical. I actually did some of my vertical areas with the deck restore even though it is not recommended and it turned out fine. The process is slow but if it lasts as long as they claim it will be worth it.
All indicators so far support the claim for durability over many years. I was most disappointed in the roller applicators. The material pulled apart and I found myself picking roller material out of my paint. As for how the material feels on your bare feet, I kind of like it! It is all about expectation management. The real thing turned out much grittier feeling then the samples at Home Depot indicate but I am ok with that.
I too put the deck restore on my railings which I wish I could undo. Has any tried to do a design with the restore. Has anyone applied Restore to a new deck? Installed last summer in the Midwest and ready to stain this summer. Also, does this product fill the deck screws and seal them over? If so, anyone worried about replacing boards down the road with it much more difficult to locate all of the screws? You can use a smooth roller for a smoother finish.
It will still have a non slip texture but it will be as smooth as th roller you use. The product does cover up all the screw holes so relplacing boards in the future will be a very difficult job!
I really prefer a simi smooth surface, is it possible to brush it on to aviod extreme texturing? How about using a very thin roller. Any info is appreciated. Our driveway is cracked and aging so we wondered if we could get a few more years out of it by using this product. The product is somewhat misleading. One of the pictures in the brochure shows this product used n concrete but in the directions is states not for anything that a vehicle will drive on. I think it is primarily for sidewalks and concrete patios.
This cutting edge formula features the latest polymer technology. Ethan — thanks for sharing. I find myself needing to stain really paint the deck every couple of years. We are in upstate New York, and we have cold snowy winters, very hot summers and lists of rain. Plus it is on the south side of the house — gets lots of sun. Deck is over square feet, so composite would be hugely expensive. My main question is what it feels like to walk on it in bare feet. Our deck leads to a pool, so we are frequently on it without shoes.
It looks like it might be very uncomfortable to walk on? I am getting ready to do my deck and a friend of mine has done his. Your deck looks great I hope mine looks just as good, now if the rain will only stop. Just put down the first coat and i like the way it looks so far. Rolling it on was easy; but it just took a few times to find the proper starting point and how much to load on the roller to make sure i did not have extra material rolling off the edge.
It depends a lot on how your deck boards are spaced. I did a second floor balcony off the master bedroom and the product leaked through to the patio below because my boards were spaced far enough apart. If you use a smaller roller about the width of one plank you can probably control the amount off waste that drips through the crack. I did this in some areas by taking the standard 9 inch roller and cutting down to the width of a small roller.
I painted my first coat of Restore yesterday and it rained last night. My deck is splotchy and VERY sandy! Will the second coat fix this? I used this on my concrete patio that was extremely yucky, chipping and accessorized with cracks.
Not because a large patio but because in such bad shape. Used this on our deck which believe it or not was in worse shape than yours two years ago. Works great. We live in the north east with temps and lots of snow held up great so far. I read some post where people thinned it a little. I did this and it worked fine. Hey Beth, I have a square ft deck around my pool as well , but its concrete. How many Gallons did it take you to complete your deck? What color did you use? I am wanting to purchase this week, but worried about the costs and coverage.
Based on the container I will need Approx. Thanks to everyone who shared their tips as it will make my experience so much better! We had heard a lot of good things about Deck Restore and also some of the negatives. WHen we went to get it at Home Depot the sales guy there very honest…have gone to him on many occasions for recommendations said that their new product, DeckOver, is getting better results with happier customers saying it was much easier to apply and had great results.
So we are going to try it. Your deck looks really nice. We were quite pleased with the final product and have highly recommended to friends and family. These products are realtively inexpensive if you are wiling to put in the manual labor required when compared to replacement options.
I have wondered about the cabinet kit. I am no do it yourselfer. However I would try this. My cabinets are wood stained and I do not want to paint them. How hard was this to do and how much experience did you already have? Thank you. Does anyone know whether Deck Restore can be used in humid environments, such as Southern Illinois? How would you get the product close enough to the spindles with the roller without it pooling up the spindles.
I would be a little concerned using this product on a deck in very poor condition, though that is what it is obviously intended for. I have seen many painted exterior structures that were basically held together by the paint film. Damage was not evident until it was too late. This looks like a similar solution, but even worse. Ethan, please let me us know what color you used on your great looking deck … looks like Taupe, Dune or Chocolate. In his description he says it is Saddle.
When I purchased my kit, Home Depot was able to tint it to a Behr color I had picked for the exterior of my house. Thanks, I guess I should read slower, I reread the article, and there it is Saddle, I am putting Taupe for the second coat, we first used Beach and its too light for us.
I am thinking about using the deck restore product. After searching everywhere, I can find where it says anything about how it feels when the sun is shining on it all day. I am trying to figure out if this product traps the heat or what.. It depends greatly on the color. I used Rattan which is a very light greyish color which appears almost white.
It is completely comfortable on bare feet, even in the 90 degree full sunlight of the past few days. We have been very interested in trying this product on our old, weathered deck as we can not afford to replace it. I have been looking at reviews for the Behr deck restore product as well. I am not sure which is better?
You stated that some friends of yours used Behr? I read that the Behr product made the deck very hot, too hot for dogs to walk on. Has the Rust-Oleum product made your deck overly hot to the touch?
Do you have any idea which is better? I felt the Behr was too thin to cover the deep splintering I had. Some of the glue hand turned to a power like substance that was around the outside. The other that was further up under the pourch still has some glue qualities.
Will this Restore stick to the glue? If not do you have any suggestions. Ethan, Love the color you choose. Could you please tell me what color you used on your deck? Thanks for this! And thanks for the person with the comment about the concrete patio. And based on the description, rustoleum would be the perfect choice to fill in cracks etc. I had to redo my top rails because of rain. It took about an hour for me to get from one end to another, and it rained about 2 hours after I finished.
So the side that was done 3 hours before heavy rain was good for a second coat. The last part I completed was a washout. Between those points it washed out, or held up, pretty much along the timeline. I finished my 2nd coat 24 hours ago, and we just got a light rain that is making the Restore mushy. Will I have to wait for it to completely dry, and then buy some more for a 3rd coat?
Yes you should put a third coat on. Just like wet concrete, too much water before it is set and cured will wash out some of the cement and weaken the resulting product. DJ- If you read the thread you will see that Rustoleum stood behind their product and in conjunction with Home Depot, provided me with the sealer, and Restore product needed at no additional charge.
My only expense was the original purchase of the product needed to do the two original coats. At the end of the winter — the 3rd snowiest on record in my area, which including today puts us at about 70 inches, as well as single digit temps for days—- I have a few nicks in front of my back door and on the edge of one step. Both from shoveling and easily touched up. I have no peeling, no cracking. It is a wonderful product that saved me from replacing the surface of a 28 year old deck.
There is no pretending tis is easy. It is an epoxy stucco and takes much care in preparation and application to get the proper result. Anything less will yield questionable results. We used Restore on our deck 16 x It splattered awful. Covered well.. But after the second coat dried, I questioned if it was a mistake.
This is very uncomfortable to walk on. We hoped for non slip but this is impossible to walk or knee on. How do I fix this or take it off. I watched the video at the store. We now have a new deck and hesitate to use it again. This deck will have hot tub…durability is the plus.. I was planning on buying the restore in the 4 gallon size because its a bit cheaper that way.
But I have read in several reviews that it thickens up quickly , the sand in the mixture settles etc. Has anyone bought their product in the 4 gallon size and if so have you had problems with this? You need to mix it during use, about every gal.
You can also add a bit of water as you get to the bottom. Think about it, the roller has been in the air drying during the entire time. I think this is one of the reasons they recommend a new roller cover for each 4 gal.
We just put our first coat on our deck and our sidewalks. We had no issues at all. And for mixing I just used a real heavy duty paint stick with no problem. For the roller cover it cleaned up very easily with just warm water. It is now hanging up in the garage to dry so we can apply the second coat tomorrow.
The 10 hour job took me 17 days to complete? Rain in Cleveland, OH and much of the Midwest. I used 7 gallons of paint, 3 of beech was too light for us and the rest Taupe. At our HD I kept purchasing 2 gallon kits, was cheaper then the 3 gallon pail Looks like a 5 gallon bucket. I put the first coat using the roller in the kit. When I switched colors I used a standard roller, since the first coat was dry and had texture there was no change in smoothness. I did learn to use a pair of disposable gloves to scoop out the paint from the gallon container for mixing in the larger pail.
Besides many of the questions sent to Ethan can be answered if you get the kit and READ the instructions that are inside the case. Our deck is under a year old Maple, love the shade.
It does take some time to feel the proper roller application. Take it slow and let it roll. One Project Closer.. Thank you for this forum. Good luck to all, Keep Moving! We purchased our Restore had it tinted and started putting it on today with zero chance of rain. Now we get to start all over.
But what I wanted to know is if you have it tinted we went with their beach color and it is way lighter than I wanted. Is there anyway to take back the other 4- 3 gallon things and have it made darker? I am not sure if that is even possible. Thanks for any info you can give me. Love this forum- thank you all for sharing your experiences! My 15 yo daughter and I are heading to HD to pick our colors out now. However, he said he had some feedback on a similar product.
He raised questions as to how well this product will hold up as a rigid surface over a flexing wooden floor and how well it would hold up to expansion and contraction with extreme temperatures, He said he would be concerned about cracking or chipping, and how well it could be patched without being too noticeable..
We used this on our concrete covered patio and a tongue and groove covered porch. It has only been about a month, but we love the results. BUT, we used it on our concrete steps and it is starting to chip. We blocked off the steps for a week to give it extra time to cure, but there are now small areas where it is chipping off after just one week.
Anyone else have this experience or know of anything we can to do stop it? We have just used both the deck restore and the deck over. We used the deck restore on the flat surface and the deck over on the vertical railings and step risers. We are now moving onto the back deck.
I am wondering if I can use up both products they are tinted the same grey color by painting a base coat of the deck over and then putting down only one coat of the restore on top. This could provide some texture, but not be overwhelming. It could also use up the remaining product. Any thoughts? I would use the Restore as the base. It will cover the imperfections better. The Deck Over will then fill in some of the texture, softening it. Just applied deck restore.
My only question if after it drys and you put furniture on it will it chip. I have completed one section of a very large deck with the restore product. I do like the look of the product, but I am disappointed in the color. My husband and I chose the cedar color and it is so light it seems to look somewhat pink. We bought 5 of the 3 gallon buckets of the product so I have to keep going. Yes, there seems to be some issue with the way the color looks once applied.
If you lie the swatch down on the deck, it matches, but in bright light the colors seem to wash out. My original color was rattan. We want a lighter color so as to not have the heat deck used to be a dark brown. But it appeared to be blinding white in sunlight.
It also had a pink cast to it. We spoke to customer support and we are coating it with the vertical stain in a slightly darker color, slate. Ours came off just from sweeping it. I have been looking at this all summer and have yet to buy because I am afraid to go for it.
We have a small cement patio between our house and garage that is old and years ago someone painted it. Now it has all worn off but there is a green cast here and there and it has some cracks in it also.
That it had to be a broom brush surface. Is this true. Or would it be OK to use this product on it? We applied the horizontal deck restore and followed all of the directions regarding preperation nd application.
Every time it rains, we have bubbles everywhere. Is this part of the curing process? It chips and peels and the company will not return your money! They want you to remove the paint and use it again!! I see lots of comments on wood deck, but read somewhere this is not for Smooth concrete or anything other then Broom finished.
Our cool deck is not very rough and wonder if it too would chip off or if finish would be too rough to kneel on as stated above. Most of the questions on concrete were not answered is that why? Sorry you are so upset. We used this product last summer and so far it has worked well on our deck and on concrete. We used 3 coats and waited 1 day in between to be certain it was dry enough to take the other coats.
I hope you find a solution that will make you feel better. I live in the Seattle area and it is typically rainy and damp in this area. When I saw this product I was quite excited about it since I have a deck that although structurally sound was looking a little shabby lot of checking on the upper surface.
I started by pressure washing the deck and spraying it with bleach and vinegar to take care of any mildew and other stains. I let it dry for a couple of weeks and a couple days before I started on this I hose it down again to get anything that had accumulated on it in the two weeks between cleaning and actually starting work on this.
I let the sales person at HD talk me into buying a miss mixed bucket for the first coat. In my case the first coat was a yellow sand color with the final coat being gray. Wrong, fog had set in as it often does in September and the temp. It was finally dry enough to walk on four days later and the weather looked good for the second coat. At that point I took a very stiff scrub brush and went over the deck to make sure there were no loose or flaking material on the deck from the first coat not drying properly.
That removed some of the first coat. I then proceeded with the second coat starting earlier in the day so it would have a better chance to dry. It was dry to the touch in about 4 hours after I finished but I stayed off of it until late the next day. Then I had to proceed to cover up all the yellow from the first coat. All of that was on the edges of the boards and around the outside. When I finished the deck looked much better than when I started. I can patch up the spots that are chipping but at some point it may be easier to remove it and start again.
If you decide to use this product I have these suggestions. Give it plenty of time to dry. When the sales person mentioned doing this I had ask if more pigment could be added to get it closer to what I want.
Wood will typically expand and contract and along with drying out more which causes the checking to begin with. Time will tell. The chipping, bubbling and peeling are pretty consistent for hundreds if not thousands of people who have purchased this product. So I am confused why Ethan is still apparently in favor and encouraging people to use it.
Buyer beware. This is the worst product I have ever used it was peeling within the first rain storm. Do not buy!!! I have heard that using a smaller brush results in a larger yield for the product as a good percentage goes in between the boards and is wasted. It was seem like a no-brainer to have for deck boards. Now 5 months later it is peeling off in long strips and the deck look terrible. Bleach leaves a slippery residue which is super hard to remove. I found out the hard way. Cleaned my cabin with bleach before painting and it started peeling within months of doing the job.
Previous times I used TSP to clean off dirt and mildew with no problems of peeling or chipping afterward. You have to be careful in the cleaning products that that you use. For the record I have never used Restore, but was reading comments because I was considering buying it. I have over 3, square ft. We used around 60 gallons of Restore Beach color.
Love, love , love this stuff! I have been sanding and staining this deck for the last 12 years. I can not tell you how happy I am not to have to deal with it for years to come!
It is extremely durable and looks beautiful! If your having issues with it you did something wrong. I only review a product if I feel strongly about it. Restore is well worth the money. My husband worked for hours prepping our deck and applying this paint. The deck looked beautiful for about 6 months, now it looks like crap!! The paint is chipping and peeling. Then they want us to use it again! DJ, we get it. You are not happy. Mine looks great still, been on since July, winter has done it no harm and waiting to see what this summer does.
But for now ours is good. My email box is filled with your complaints. Please feel free to complain elsewhere. Hey guys, I bought this stuff last year and had it put on professionally. The guys came and first sanded the whole deck and then applied 2 coats. I did both my front deck and back deck with it. I have to say, when it first was done last spring, I absolutely loved it.
It really brought such a new look to the deck and I really loved the feel of it as well. I had so many compliments about it last summer from friends. Well, then winter came and here in NY, we got blasted with a harsh winter this year.. My back deck I have lots of peeling.
My front deck is only peeling near the stairs but the rest of the front deck has a roof so no snow or ice accumulated on there.. What can I say, Mother nature has its way of destroying things.
What I want to do is buy a couple of more gallons and just go over all the parts on the back deck that peeled up … there are long strips that peeled up.. Only thing is I see some cracks in the texture in those areas as well …. Do you think I will be fine doing this? I really did like the deck restore and how it came out … and if I can get away with doing those touch ups and it be good for this summer season, I will be happy … Please let me know how I should proceed..
Ethan — now that spring gas arrived, just wondering how things have held up? Why is that? When most of us were doing our research about solutions for painting our decks, this web site kept popping up. After all he has the insiders at Rustoleum available to answer his questions. To all these people saying that it is peeling up, I live in Wisconsin, we had a very harsh winter, sub zero temps, tons of snow.
I have one spot on one tread of one step on our deck that is peeling. Our deck was treated lumber but was 10 years old. Very dried out. Used pressure washer and prep solution from Rustoleum. Let it dry out a ton a couple days then applied the stuff to the deck. Did it over two or three days application. One small spot on the step is peeling. We did NOT prep the steps like we did the deck surface.
Barely did anything on the steps. Not surprised that we have a little peeling there. Otherwise worked great so far, applied in July , and as of April after a harsh winter, very little issue. I will keep you posted on here, but so far so good.
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